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D.L. Webster

1. "Great marital sex is the reward for being chaste."
Yes, I think this is a setup for disappointment. Our culture holds up sex as the pinnacle experience in life. We will be disappointed when we find out that it is not the all fulfilling thing it is made out to be, but rather is a more "normal" part of life. There are certainly benefits and reasons to be chaste. Yet I find saying that God is rewarding someone--in any context--to be disconcerting, because the question that logically follows is, "Is God not pleased with another person who doesn't receive this 'reward'?" Another problem is in making good sex in marriage the reason for being chaste. What happens if you plan to be single, and/or are single long term and don't believe that you'll get married? Is there a reason to be chaste then? I say yes, but that's a logical question if looked at in this way.

2. "Sex is sacred and necessary for spiritual maturity."
The message I've heard is that marriage, not sex, teaches spiritual truths about God's love, and can bring into focus areas for improvement. But we can't say that sex or marriage are necessary for spiritual maturity. Um, Jesus?

3. "You have the right to be happy, and you must be married in order to be happy."
I don't know if we can say that any of us has the right to be happy, even if we are all striving for it. I do wonder if I wouldn't be happier married though. However I think the real key isn't in being married, but in having a certain type of relationship. Just being married to anyone wouldn't necessarily make me happier. I long for a deep friendship and connection with someone. Could that possibly even come outside of marriage?

4. "Marriage is God's primary institution on earth."
I sincerely disagree. The church is God's primary institution in the world. This is vitally important to recognize.

Maria Kirby

1. "Great marital sex is the reward for being chaste."
If a person is not chaste before marriage then (s)he carries baggage into the relationship that will have to be dealt with. I don't think that the absence of premarital sex guarantees a future of great marital sex though. Sex is way too complicated for that kind of simplistic outlook.

2. "Sex is sacred and necessary for spiritual maturity."
In my opinion, sex is sacred, marriage is sacred, and eating is sacred. I believe that there are spiritual truths that can best be understood through marriage and sex. The same could be said about gardening. But I believe that a person can become spiritually mature without being a gardener or being married.

3. "You have the right to be happy, and you must be married in order to be happy."
Marriage is not a prerequisite for being happy. If you try and make it so, you will be unhappy married or not.

4. "Marriage is God's primary institution on earth."
If by primary, one means first, then I would agree with the statement that the first relationship God instituted among people was marriage. I think it is important to realize that the relationship the church has to God is that of marriage. To be married, is to live into that symbolism. When we are celibate we live into the relationship Christ had with the world. Neither is more important than the other.

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Quotes on Friendship

  • "Heaven, the essentiality of being, where everything achieves its full authenticity, is already close to us in friendship." Ladislaus Boros
  • "Few things are as healing and life-giving as is friendship between woman and man, man and woman." Ronald Rolheiser
  • "A man needs something which is more than friendship and yet is not love as it is generally understood. This something nevertheless a woman only can give." Mark Rutherford
  • "Few things are likelier to kill a friendship quicker than a careful and strictly adhered-to-theory of what qualities are needed in friend. " Joseph Epstein
  • "A soul mate doesn't have to be a sex mate." Lisa Gee
  • "I do not wish to treat friendships daintily, but with the roughest courage. When they are real, they are not glass threads or frostwork, but the solidest things we know." Emerson
  • "Prayer together is the foundation of redemptive friendships." D. Michael Henderson
  • "Friendship is the place where forgiveness begins." John Swinton
  • "Authentic friendship is notoriously different and inescapably risky. True friendships are not relationships we control but adventures we enter into." Paul Wadell
  • "It is more important who they are as people and only then it is important who they are as dancers." Marcia Haydee
  • "There is a love that does not desire to possess. It is called friendship. When friendship is the determining force in a relationship, individuals are able to find themselves and a passion for life, not merely lose themselves in love." Mark Vernon
  • "In this kingdom the distinctions and barriers between male and female were to be broken down...to actualize the potential of any love--in this case a male and female love of friendship--can be to participate in the building of a kingdom of love...spiritual friendships shared by men and women can be eschatological signs." Wendy Wright
  • "Friendship defies reduction." Mary E Hunt
  • "Friendship forms. Friendship is a much underestimated aspect of spirituality. It's every bit as significant as prayer and fasting. Like the sacramental use of water and bread and wine, friendship takes what is common in human experience and turns it into something holy." Eugene Peterson
  • "The radical power of the best of friendships is that they empower us to break free from the destructive fantasies and ideologies of our culture in order to begin something better." Paul Wadell

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