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September 06, 2008

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Molly

THis is a GREAT post.

We, too, subscribed to the whole, "Don't counsel the opposite gender," and for goodness sake, don't meet with them unless you have another person with you, etc... My husband, who was a youth pastor for 8 years, would get together with the guys regularly but the girls were sort of on their own...

In the name of protecting pastors from sexual sin, we "protected" everyone from becoming friends.

Bill


Hi Dan,

I gather this cross gender friendship thing is a real passion of yours. I have been divorced for over six years now and although I have wanted to remarry it has been difficult, in part, because I don't think I ever really learned how to be friends with women...so...I do empathize with much of what you have to say here.

Dan

Molly, coming from you a Christian feminist :-), thank you! Yeah, we need to forge new scripts for cross-sex friendships in churches.

Bill,

Yes, it has become my passion--I'm writing a book on the phenomenon. :-) I understand the sense of disconnect with the other (not opposite) sex. Thank you for your empathy. You are a caring, sensitive man and I have no doubt you could enjoy friendships with women.

preacherman

Dan,
Your blog Rocks!
I think this 10 commandment list is crazy especially since 1-4 have to do with unmarried when those who are unmarried are most prone to sexual temptation in these situations. Crazy. Makes no sense to me at all. You?

Maria Kirby

While I think it is a good idea not to purposefully do things that seem suggestive, I think it is more important to consider the relationship than the reputation. Jesus retorted to the Pharasis when they were critical of his being with sinners, that they wouldn't mourn with John and they wouldn't make merry with him. There are some people who are so caught up in the rules that they miss the spirit. Having all those rules is like doubting that God is in control, doubting that he can save you from temptation, doubting that He can managing your ministry, doubting whether God cares for your reputation, doubting whether He can work all things out for good. I find that people who make up lots of rules usually have a heart problem. Instead of dealing directly with the heart problem, they make up external fences to manage the actions of sins already committed on the inside.

Dan

Preacherman--yeah, you get it with the singles. You know, of course, 150 years ago, pre "dating" Christians would have had a cow with Christian singles meeting alone in someone's house. It's totally weird and senseless (I know some Christian singles who believe this) for a Christian single to meet his/her date in their house/apt alone for um, well we know, while having boundaries with their cross-gender friends who are not allowed to come into their dwellings. Say what???

Dating--Christians dating have much more vulnerabilities to sex than than friends do. Why do unmarried Christians get the pass on 1-4? If premarital sex is not an option for unmarried, then why are unmarried staff--especially those who are dating--given grace to meet alone in a home and friends aren't? If you buy into the argument that cross-sex intimacy leads to sex, then 1-4 should apply to unmarried staff, right?

Mike Morrell

Excellent post, Dan. Let's hope in 2-3 years we can open up a major conversation about this within the Christian faith.

Christian singles

Excellent post! I believe it is especially important to follow the proper guidelines with "friendships" within the church. For instance, I am a single Christian woman and I met another Christian man on a Christian dating site. We began to accompany each other to church events, and were sure not to engage in anything other than friendship until we decide we would wed. Because the situation was handled properly, there was never any uncomfortable feelings at either of our churches. However, I do see how inappropriate friendships do effect the church as I do know quite a few people who were using church functions as a way to meet others for dating instead of for praising the Lord. As long as you are careful and abiding by the word, a friendly relationship can be established.

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