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December 18, 2006

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Jen O

Great post! I'd love to hear you "think out loud" more about how this can look in larger ministry. I think the implications are pretty clear (and profound) for close relationships (marriage, friendships, etc). But how does it shape the way a pastor preaches to and leads a church of 400? What could that look like?

Dana Ames

Don't think I've mentioned to you yet "The Holy Longing" by Ronald Rolheiser (RC priest!). The book is a discussion of desire (yes, he actually talks about it, and without casting it as totally negative...) and Christian spirituality. His chapter on the spirituality of sexuality stands alongside Volf for me, and would be a good read with Peterson. There is much good in the rest of it, too.

Dana

Dan

Dana,

Thanks for the tip! I was unaware of thos book!

Dan

Hi Jen O,

Thank you. I'm not sure what you are asking. Do you mean the public nature of praying or something different?

Molly

Wow. This is an excellent post. I especially liked this quote,

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""By listening attentively to a person's dreams, desires, and longings, and by sharing passionately a person's struggles, painful frustrations, and difficulties, (Dan interjects: I suggest if we get this we can really make great strides in gender reconciliation in cross gender friendships, marriages, partnerships, etc.) significance is given to them."
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That is so true... So many times we "hear" but fail to actually LISTEN. I had not thought before of the act of LISTENING implying that one thinks the speaker to be of value and his/her words therefore of significance.

Well said.

Dan

Thank you Molly, and thanks for visiting! You're welcome to come back!

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